5 in a row ?

GPdreamer · 8 May 2004, 23:27 (Ref:964633)

To any that feel that the races bore you because MS is always in the front and is always in P1, I say to you "Be patient". The more he(MS) runs in the front and the more he wins, according to the laws of probability and of averages, he becomes more and more likely to fail.
Perhaps sunday theese laws will catch up with MS.

fiona · 9 May 2004, 00:10 (Ref:964660)

he hasnt had a mechanical failure for years........... im not optimistic

ASCII Man · 9 May 2004, 00:51 (Ref:964687)

I bet that TGF has a contract lying around somewhere signed by him and the devil himself.

Hazard · 9 May 2004, 01:00 (Ref:964691)

You calling Luca DiMontezemolo the devil?

Laws of averages don't work with Michael. The technical failure thing applies too - isn't it since Hockenheim 2001?

Son of Jor-El · 9 May 2004, 02:11 (Ref:964715)

It'll happen some day, certaintly before he retires. I hope!

I take that back. I don't want anyone to beat him by default. It would be more enjoyable to see a true contest, here's me hoping!

GP Racer · 9 May 2004, 02:25 (Ref:964720)

I don't think the laws of average and probability apply to this guy. He's above the law!

This guy is in the groove, he's in the zone. He is running so relaxed now, with almost no pressure, and nothing left to prove. It just looks effortless. Did you see the camera shots from inside the cockpit? He looked as if he were driving a Cadillac down the turnpike at 55MPH, smooth as silk.

He should have skipped these 2 GP's, and come to Indianapolis to run the Indy 500. This man is ready for a new challenge!

BARrouette · 9 May 2004, 02:30 (Ref:964723)

It is gonna be harder this time but still possible with a pole, but does he have a lot of gas? Any way Ferrari are the best when it comes to pit stops...

Wrex · 9 May 2004, 03:01 (Ref:964732)

This run of 'luck' as some call it has little to do with Michael, other than he shares the Ferrari philosophy of reliability being the key.

Although Michaels record is unbelievable, Rubins is'nt exactly poor either. He probably has better reliability than everyone bar Michael. In short, its the car not the drivers.

I recall in 1998 Ron Dennis saying "I would rather have have a fast unreliable car, than a slow car thats reliable" or something to that effect. It would seem, Ferrari have (in its most recent form) have a different view.

If you recall Melbourne 98, the McLarens slaughtered the field. They were not just faster than anyone else, they were alot faster, even more so than the F12002. However that did'nt stop us having a close championship the Mac's fragility keeping it interesting.

Whats funny about those 2 opposing views, is today Ferrari have a fast bullet proof car, while McLaren have a rebelious donkey. Hmmm, which one was better?

At the time I agreed with Ron, but its hard to work on a car that does'nt complete enough laps. I would also imagine testing gets expensive when you car spends more time on tha back of a truck than doing laps.

The law averages will come into play, but I think you will find engineering excellence has more to do with Ferrari's finishing record than 'luck'.

Mattracer · 9 May 2004, 12:15 (Ref:965051)

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Originally posted by GP Racer
I don't think the laws of average and probability apply to this guy. He's above the law!

This guy is in the groove, he's in the zone. He is running so relaxed now, with almost no pressure, and nothing left to prove. It just looks effortless. Did you see the camera shots from inside the cockpit? He looked as if he were driving a Cadillac down the turnpike at 55MPH, smooth as silk.

He should have skipped these 2 GP's, and come to Indianapolis to run the Indy 500. This man is ready for a new challenge!

Doesn't want that challenge; apparently ovals are too dangerous. :confused:

Kicking-back · 9 May 2004, 12:34 (Ref:965110)

Ovals are too dangerous

Kicking-back · 9 May 2004, 12:36 (Ref:965114)

Looking like a good Bridgestone day

**gomick** · 9 May 2004, 12:36 (Ref:965115)

montoya will not let schumi get around turn 1 in p1 at barcelona

garcon · 9 May 2004, 14:19 (Ref:965320)

Hmm. Well at least JPM managed to get around turn 1 ahead of one of the Ferraris...

And yes, ovals are too dangerous.

GP Racer · 9 May 2004, 14:40 (Ref:965388)

Cmon guys, danger is part of racing.

We've been racing on ovals since cars were first invented. Its a huge part of racing history.

It would be very interesting to see Michael come over for the 500. It would take him out of his comfort zone, and I think he's up to it.

garcon · 9 May 2004, 14:44 (Ref:965400)

For racers Stateside who are weened on oval racing, then it's not so bad - they're used to what happens if you go high and hit the wall.

I think Michael's attitude is more that as a European racer, oval racing is a little alien to him and in his position he doesn't need to face the inherent risks. Purely a personal choice. If he decided to try his hand at Cart - like others before him, and of course like JPM and JV in the opposite direction - I'm sure he'd be up to the job, particularly as one of Michael's greatest technical assets is the sheer speed he can take through a corner.

GP Racer · 9 May 2004, 14:55 (Ref:965418)

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Originally posted by garcon
For racers Stateside who are weened on oval racing, then it's not so bad - they're used to what happens if you go high and hit the wall.

I think Michael's attitude is more that as a European racer, oval racing is a little alien to him and in his position he doesn't need to face the inherent risks. Purely a personal choice. If he decided to try his hand at Cart - like others before him, and of course like JPM and JV in the opposite direction - I'm sure he'd be up to the job, particularly as one of Michael's greatest technical assets is the sheer speed he can take through a corner.

I think your right about Michael having more of a European attitude towards racing, and thats certainly not a bad thing. But I can't help but think of the excitement and drama that a guy like him could bring to this great race. I would love to see him go 2 or 3 wide lap after lap, at about 220MPH! That would certainly be a bit alien to him!

It would be incredible IMO...

Knowlesy · 9 May 2004, 14:57 (Ref:965420)

Michael wouldn't like to do a piquet and have a serious oval crash.....but it wouyld be great to see him on the ovals!

Kicking-back · 9 May 2004, 15:30 (Ref:965495)

Michael is worth multi-millions.

He has a young family.

Why put all that on the line to race on an insanely dangerous oval?

GP Racer · 9 May 2004, 15:49 (Ref:965544)

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Originally posted by Kicking-back
Michael is worth multi-millions.

He has a young family.

Why put all that on the line to race on an insanely dangerous oval?

Alot of guys who are worth alot of money, and have young families, race on "insanely" dangerous ovals for a living every week.

Its about new challenges. Michael certainly could use one, because he's obviously the master of the F1 universe. Its almost become to easy for him. I think its more that he doesn't want to put his reputation on the line. He would be wary to risk doing badly in another form of racing, and maybe I can see that point. I for one, don't think Michael fears it though.

I love the days when drivers regularly croosed over to different series, but they were simpler times, and it was easier to do then. Today, like everything else, it would be more complicated and involved.

Don't mind me, I'm just dreaming...

Gt_R · 9 May 2004, 16:31 (Ref:965656)

Didn't mind one bit..

Firstly, Michael is free to do what he loves or not without the "influence" or pressure of how others judge him. Oval racing may be a different challenge, but i don't think Michael see's it as a greater challenge than driving an F1 car. In any case, it's a challenge that doesn't appeal to MS..

If anything, i'd rather see MS go to LeMans or back to sportscar...oval racing isn't the thing for me, and thankfully isn't the thing for him either.

f1atic · 9 May 2004, 19:52 (Ref:965820)

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Originally posted by Mattracer
Doesn't want that challenge; apparently ovals are too dangerous. :confused:

Maybe, but I think he likes turning both left and right.

GP Racer · 9 May 2004, 22:24 (Ref:965965)

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Originally posted by f1atic
Maybe, but I think he likes turning both left and right.

That "joke" is getting abit old, don't you think?

Mattracer · 12 May 2004, 11:28 (Ref:968575)

If you think about it a bit, MS would probably like the challenge knowing the type of driver he is. That's on one hand; on the other is the inherent danger, the risk to himself and his legend- F1 is his world and he is currently master of it- US racing has seen much upheaval in the last few seasons, and arguably the gloss and lustre has dimmed with the IRL/CART war since he heady days of Mansell taking on all-comers and winning the championship first time out.

It's been done before, so the record for MS to break would be to do it two seasons in a row, but which series???

GPdreamer · 14 May 2004, 05:21 (Ref:970521)

well, the long arm of those laws nearly caught up with TGF, he did have a mechanical problem with his Ferrari , but it wasnt enough to effect the outcome,the exhaust manifold's broken weld didnt create any other failures.

climb · 14 May 2004, 06:53 (Ref:970557)

GPdreamer, you're just taking the topic back to the start: be patient!