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Old 8 Aug 2004, 09:57 (Ref:1059934)   #1
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forum facts,,check before commit to!!!!

i have just had to correct miss information on [where are they now] subject ,please think hard and fast before you make a statement .it may be incorrect, there are still alot of people out there that really know what went on in the era.. journo's please take not of this ,you donot know everything, you may think you do...
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Old 8 Aug 2004, 09:59 (Ref:1059938)   #2
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But spreading mistruths and having others correct them is what makes forums so interesting.

If you don't believe me, GTR will back me up
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Old 8 Aug 2004, 10:14 (Ref:1059955)   #3
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Nah, change the wording to make it sound like supposition and recollection and all shall be sweet

Spa-eau rouge has a point though, it is annoying when people get their facts wrong, or indeed take selective facts to draw inferences & conclusions that dont seem to fit with everyone else's recollections.....

... but JDI hit it on the head.... these are internet forums, not putting the hand on the bible and swearing on your firstborn's head that all is true and correct....
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Old 8 Aug 2004, 10:29 (Ref:1059973)   #4
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the other problem we have is that the supposition,recollection and selective facts are being used to create myths galore that are distorting the true facts.. i do agree with your reply in some respects though...
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Old 8 Aug 2004, 10:34 (Ref:1059977)   #5
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Thanks for the compliment, GTR...appreciated! The only question is, mate, whoever said it was your first born??
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Old 8 Aug 2004, 13:39 (Ref:1060118)   #6
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Re: forum facts,,check before commit to!!!!

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i have just had to correct miss information on [where are they now] subject ,please think hard and fast before you make a statement .it may be incorrect, there are still alot of people out there that really know what went on in the era.. journo's please take not of this ,you donot know everything, you may think you do...
I have just looked at the thread where you say you had to correct miss information and I am buggered if I can see where you corrected anything. I can see where you told someone they were wrong but I can't see a correction.

Now I don't know what to believe.
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Old 8 Aug 2004, 13:48 (Ref:1060125)   #7
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'Not me Stanley, believe me.'

'What do you mean?'

'I mean everything I've ever told you is a lie - including that.'

'Including what?'

'That everything I've ever told you is a lie. It's not true.'

- 'Bedazzled', 1969 (I think). Directed by Stanley Donen, starring Peter Cook and Dudley Moore.
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Old 8 Aug 2004, 14:01 (Ref:1060133)   #8
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'Not me Stanley, believe me.'

'What do you mean?'

'I mean everything I've ever told you is a lie - including that.'

'Including what?'

'That everything I've ever told you is a lie. It's not true.'

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Old 8 Aug 2004, 15:49 (Ref:1060178)   #9
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Re: forum facts,,check before commit to!!!!

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i have just had to correct miss information on [where are they now] subject ,please think hard and fast before you make a statement .it may be incorrect, there are still alot of people out there that really know what went on in the era.. journo's please take not of this ,you donot know everything, you may think you do...
Its not being aware of how much you know, but being aware of how much you don't know. Personally I'm not even aware of how much I don't know.

All I can suggest is to clearly define opinions and knowledge.

But memory cheats too, and what you think you knew once upon a time fades through the years and suddenly what you recall is no longer accurate.

And thats hardly exclusive to the internet.

So what do you do, hold back on something because you 'might' be wrong? If you don't know your wrong and never say anything then you'll never be corrected and that incorrect knowledge is then perpetuated.

Spa-Eau-Rouge: I guess I'm wanting to know that if you really don't want to inform people they are wrong when they honestly believe you are right and you find it such a chore, why are you on an internet fora in the first place? I don't mean to sound overtly critical as the point is driven by curiosity, not smart-alecness, but your post comes across rather vehemently.

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Old 8 Aug 2004, 22:53 (Ref:1060538)   #10
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"Look at you. If you even knew that you knew nothing, then that would be something, but you don't."
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Spa, we all make mistakes. Even me. Yes, really, even I. My favourite was that Denny Hulme never won a world F1 title. That was a good one.

One I didn't make publicly, but when the Brock to HRT thread started I almost wrote 'cold day in hell before Brock is back there'. Then I thought about it - then I forgot about it. Narrow escape that one.

Excuse me, have I mentioned the words I, me, myself enough in this post.

As for the rest of it, well, a lot of us think we know a lot more than we do. Most times we 'know' something because we spoke to a guy who knows a guy who is friends with someone either in the team, or the driver.

I'll bet there's very little first-hand info in most of these 'I know' posts.

But that's part of what makes them interesting, and doesn't necessarily make them wrong.
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Old 9 Aug 2004, 02:21 (Ref:1060609)   #11
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Just take everything you read here as rumour, not the gospel truth.
Memories also have a habit of changing over the years, I guess that's what makes us human.
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Old 9 Aug 2004, 03:43 (Ref:1060635)   #12
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but JDI hit it on the head.... these are internet forums, not putting the hand on the bible and swearing on your firstborn's head that all is true and correct....
Yeah, hence old old saying, "I read it on the internet. So it must be true...."
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Old 9 Aug 2004, 04:12 (Ref:1060646)   #13
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there is only one other thing about internet forums like this one ,myths and misinformation are being grabed hold of by owners and followers of some historic cars for finacial gain of which is totally incorrect of what really happened....
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Old 9 Aug 2004, 06:39 (Ref:1060685)   #14
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Anyone who would base a financial purchase based solely on what they read on an internet forum would be rather silly.

Even if what's written on here is incorrect, some basic research looking for corroboration should highlight that.
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Old 9 Aug 2004, 06:51 (Ref:1060693)   #15
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there are some very silly people and owners out there & lot of these owners base there knowledge & car history on the info they get off the internet, very silly people feeding the sharks!!!!!! , & the eligibility officers belive this info!!!!!
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Old 9 Aug 2004, 06:57 (Ref:1060699)   #16
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It would be more helpful to post a friendly correction to set the record straight, if you have the information, rather than complain about people posting information that they believe to be correct.
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Old 9 Aug 2004, 07:08 (Ref:1060707)   #17
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i'm not complaining, just stating some facts that probably will upset or anoy some indiviuals because there lives revolve around rumors .
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Old 9 Aug 2004, 11:31 (Ref:1060913)   #18
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I have been reading through some old threads and found this one which I thought you might be interested to read SER. It was started by someone I know, but who has not been on the forums for a long time now. She pretty well said what I think you are trying to get across now.

http://tentenths.com/forum/showthrea...highlight=sevi

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Old 9 Aug 2004, 21:25 (Ref:1061516)   #19
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i'm not complaining, just stating some facts that probably will upset or anoy some indiviuals because there lives revolve around rumors .
If their lives revolve around rumours then surely they have to expect a garden path or two, because that is the nature of rumours.

We shouldn't have to put a disclaimer on everything in life should we?
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Old 10 Aug 2004, 00:28 (Ref:1061612)   #20
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Realistically, I think most people post information here in good faith. Alternately, a lot of people qualify their comments with 'I heard', 'I believe' or 'I could be mistaken', and they usually aren't too precious when they find out they have made a mistake.

Surely we can't do much about all of that.

On the other hand, spreading malicious gossip or deliberate mis-information is something else again and, if it's found, should be reported to the moderators. With a couple of informed questions the majority of fraudsters could be weeded out.

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Old 10 Aug 2004, 02:45 (Ref:1061656)   #21
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thanking you very much v8supercars, this is precisely what i have been trying to get across to people on this forum, but with no luck. every minute of my working day ,from 1964 till my retirement, mid 2003, my life has been reliant on making a living out of motorsport, and even now i would not do anything to harm this sport or industry. [please have a look at my profile on this forum]
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Old 10 Aug 2004, 03:53 (Ref:1061695)   #22
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there are some very silly people and owners out there & lot of these owners base there knowledge & car history on the info they get off the internet, very silly people feeding the sharks!!!!!! , & the eligibility officers belive this info!!!!!
Is that our fault ? Are we bound by a duty of care to these imbeciles ?
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Re: forum facts,,check before commit to!!!!

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i have just had to correct miss information on [where are they now] subject ,please think hard and fast before you make a statement .it may be incorrect, there are still alot of people out there that really know what went on in the era.. journo's please take not of this ,you donot know everything, you may think you do...
So where is this correction?

I want to know the "True " story.
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Old 10 Aug 2004, 05:04 (Ref:1061722)   #24
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BOMN, go back to the " the good old days" &MORRIS 1100 was corrected on his [repco brabham info ], good enough for you ,the full story may be writen one day ,until then FORUMS like this one will only ever have rumours submited to them ...
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You never corrected me, you did say I was wrong but you never said what I was wrong about.

Didn't you used to be called Pierre?
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