video games as training

chillibowl · 29 Mar 2005, 19:02 (Ref:1264537)

this is a jv quote i saw today on the itv web site(not sure where its from originally) “I am also going to play an F1 video game that includes this track to get used to the layout, but I will really have to find out when I get there.”

i have heard about other drivers doing this just as a way to learn the lay out because thats probably all a video game can tell you, but don't f1 teams have their own simulators like flight schools have that take all the data a team collects into account(tire ware for each track/max bhp etc.? if not i would be curious to know which game f1 drivers feels are the most realistic in terms of how their own car preforms.

ASCII Man · 29 Mar 2005, 19:41 (Ref:1264567)

Jacques also played Grand Prix 2 to learn tracks like Spa and such back in 1996...

Kicking-back · 29 Mar 2005, 19:43 (Ref:1264569)

McLaren have a simulator definitely - I read an article about Lewis Hamilton using it

luke · 29 Mar 2005, 20:04 (Ref:1264583)

Anthony Davidson used it to prepare for his stand in Grand prix in 2002 with Minardi.

JV (1997 F1 CHAMPION!!):¬"I had never seen Spa before, so I watched a video of Ayrton Senna on one of his great qualifying laps from a few years a go, and I also played a new video game which gives a quite realistic impression of the track. It may sound like a childish way to get ready, but it helped me learn the basics of the layout. In the video game, my best time was only good enough for 18th on the grid, but in real life I managed to get pole."

Hugh Jarce · 29 Mar 2005, 20:05 (Ref:1264586)

Apparantly BAR had one but the hard disk burned after 10 minutes of use.

Logrence · 29 Mar 2005, 20:23 (Ref:1264609)

I read years ago that JV had one of those giant simulators with his race seat installed on his yacht at tremendous cost.

Not that it has helped him any, but I guess it helps with new tracks to give you a basic idea of which direction to go in.

Dan Fielden · 29 Mar 2005, 20:23 (Ref:1264610)

Fernando Alonso used f1 04 software of Bahrain to learn the track and actually comented to S.C.E.E. how acurate the track was after he raced there. I assume he was not the only driver to use it but it is the only case i heard of.

ralf fan · 29 Mar 2005, 20:27 (Ref:1264617)

Williams have a pretty good simulator so ive heard..
Klien also used a playstation game to learn the tracks in 2004

luke · 29 Mar 2005, 20:28 (Ref:1264618)

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Originally Posted by Logrence

I read years ago that JV had one of those giant simulators with his race seat installed on his yacht at tremendous cost.

Not that it has helped him any, but I guess it helps with new tracks to give you a basic idea of which direction to go in.

I sappose, you'd be on the pace quicker, but drivers usually learn tracks, within 5 laps.

Sodemo · 29 Mar 2005, 23:12 (Ref:1264795)

On a related note, I found games like TOCA 2 (1998) really helped me with racing real karts, not that it helped me learn tracks, but it did give me basic training on how a car handles (oversteer correction, understeer, straight line braking) etc.

enemy-ace · 30 Mar 2005, 01:50 (Ref:1264850)

It's funny because I have found that I am quicker in the racing sim after coming back from a day at the track. In the sim I just don't get that seat of the pants feel as I do in my kart.
Having said that I would love to be able to run some of my local circuits in a sim.

JeremySmith · 30 Mar 2005, 02:06 (Ref:1264856)

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Originally Posted by Hugh Jarce

Apparantly BAR had one but the hard disk burned after 10 minutes of use.

So mean...

Logrence · 30 Mar 2005, 02:12 (Ref:1264860)

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Originally Posted by enemy-ace

It's funny because I have found that I am quicker in the racing sim after coming back from a day at the track. In the sim I just don't get that seat of the pants feel as I do in my kart.
Having said that I would love to be able to run some of my local circuits in a sim.

That's a good idea. Someone should invent simulation pants to get the proper effect.

skyblue · 30 Mar 2005, 05:16 (Ref:1264923)

Klein used GP2, Jag had a tub fitted with it in the 4-post room.

Raglanparade · 30 Mar 2005, 06:16 (Ref:1264942)

U would have thought he would have used GP3 or GP4 considering GP2 is from 1994.

Gt_R · 30 Mar 2005, 06:42 (Ref:1264949)

It's just a pity there isn't GP5.

**Adam43** · 30 Mar 2005, 08:05 (Ref:1265002)

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Originally Posted by jasonhill9884

U would have thought he would have used GP3 or GP4 considering GP2 is from 1994.

He may well have done this time. ASCII Man was referring to when he learnt tracks back in 1996. JV has done this before. I've used it too, it certainly helps you get a feel for the circuit. I think it can save you a few laps in practice.

10 Tenths has a virtual racers forum where the games can be discussed in detail: http://tentenths.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=60

garcon · 30 Mar 2005, 11:14 (Ref:1265132)

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Originally Posted by Logrence

I read years ago that JV had one of those giant simulators with his race seat installed on his yacht at tremendous cost...

No wonder he thinks the Sauber handles funny...

Sodemo · 30 Mar 2005, 11:32 (Ref:1265155)

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Originally Posted by Gt_R

It's just a pity there isn't GP5.

The last I heard was that Infogrames were developing a GP5 title, but without the assistance of G.Crammond.

I take it that is total BS as that was announced back in 2002.

Its a real shame, as I really enjoyed GP2, GP3 and GP4, despite being graphically unimpressive upon its release (GP4 got slated in the gaming press on its release for graphically looking like a 2 year old game. It was also slated for featuring a terrible awful graphics engine in terms of effeciency).

jonbryant · 30 Mar 2005, 12:10 (Ref:1265185)

I've used Gran Turismo to learn the full Nurburgring Nordschleife. I'm going there again in May so we'll see if you really can take the Flugplatz flat in a Fiesta...

ElScOrChO · 30 Mar 2005, 14:00 (Ref:1265315)

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Originally Posted by jonbryant

I've used Gran Turismo to learn the full Nurburgring Nordschleife. I'm going there again in May so we'll see if you really can take the Flugplatz flat in a Fiesta...

I hope you are kidding me

KevinS · 30 Mar 2005, 14:13 (Ref:1265329)

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Originally Posted by jasonhill9884

U would have thought he would have used GP3 or GP4 considering GP2 is from 1994.

GP2 was released in June 1995, the cars in it are from 1994. GP3 is from 1999 with the cars from 1998.

Jordi · 30 Mar 2005, 14:20 (Ref:1265335)

It must be PS2's F1 04. It's the only game that has Bahrain on it. Unless drivers dowloaded mods and tracks!

On an earlier comment, did Jacques have a yacht? I recall him saying they'd given him one for winning the Indy 500, but that he planned to sell it.
Normal...considering he spends large amounts of time in Switzerland.

Canberra>karter · 30 Mar 2005, 16:30 (Ref:1265439)

Switzerland has lot's of deep lakes that would be nice to have a yacht on, I went swimming in summertime of a yacht in Switzerland!

Jordi · 30 Mar 2005, 22:07 (Ref:1265752)

But he is famous for skiing and ice-hockeying in his free time. I've never seen a "JV in a boat" story unless it was some Lucky Strike PR.

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