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24 May 2005, 00:20 (Ref:1308540) | #1 | ||
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Heidfeld and Kimi "are boring" ?????
To all the people out there that say that Kimi or Heidfeld are "boring" because they lack of phoney jet-setting charisma, I say that auto racing is not what you say at the press conference, IT'S WHAT YOU DO ON THE TRACK !!!!
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I don't consider either boring. The "Iceman" might not be the worlds best interview candidate when it comes to raw emotion, but doesn't make him boring. And we did see him come out of his shell when things were going bad... |
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24 May 2005, 04:37 (Ref:1308590) | #3 | ||
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i've never been photographed off my chops, pants around my ankles with a stripper standing over me so i shudder to think what i'd be rated as !
i personally think Kimi has shown more of himself in the past year or two which is great, but Heidfeld is a ghost away from the track - never seen nor heard. Some may like this, however in the area of attracting corporate dollars i'm sure companies want their cars and/or drivers in the spotlight one way or the other, therefore the drivers who may like to have a bit of a say every now and then and maybe attract a bit of extra attention - say a news article with an accompanying photo of the car which is done day in day out would be a more attractive prospect. Therefore to say its only what you do ON the track that matters isnt entirely true any more unfortunately - you must be media savvy, personable, have an opinion because you will be asked about the topic of the week, and in the case of some teams the 'home' nationality is preferable |
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On Oz tv last weekend they did a story about a charity tennis tournament involving Nick, Webber and Masser. A week or 2 before that there was a story about Nick at a charity golf match. So I'm sure he's doing his bit for the sponsors.
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I do find it disturbing that people expect these drivers to behave in a certain way in, say, the press conference or elsewhere. Especially when they base it on the limited time we see the drivers and on their performance in frnot of the cameras. there is no law saying they should crack a joke for our benefit.
I loved watching Kimi's commitment throught the swimming pool, I could care less for a witty comment afterwards. Besides the whole world missed Mika's (a different personality) wit in front of the camera and it was always there. Anyway. An example. Quote:
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Nobody's boring himself; it's other drivers that make you boring if they are'nt competitive enough to make you fight.
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It is on track that is the most important thing by far.
In terms of the off-track "wit", the whole world did not miss Mika's wit. A lot of people did, but plenty of us thought he had a sparkling sense of humour. I find Kimi and Nick both to be perfectly interesting, but then I am interested in what they have to say rather than if they swing from the lights in a hotel ballroom or something. Order of priorities: The Essential Things 1) Actions on track (most important by a factor of one million-billion-trillion). <That would be 1 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 (10^27) times more important than the next most important factor (No. 2 below), and by increasing factors as we move down the lists.> 2) Comments with regards on track actions by themselves, or involving themselves. 3) Comments on actions involving others on track, but not involving themselves (in many ways I prefer it when drivers decline to comment, but it is interesting to hear). Non-essential But Interesting 4) Their thoughts on F1. 5) Comments on their careers. 6) Comments on what is important to them (beliefs etc), lif experiences. I don't want to hear 1) Derogatory comments about other peoples' characters, or lifestyles etc. 2) Information about their sex lives, or such like. 3) In any context: unjustified negative comments/accusations, fueled by spite etc. |
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About comments, it has to be noticed that the official F1 language is English, whereas both aren't.
It's hard to be real entertaining (like Mario Andretti was, for instance) when having to talk another (albeit well known) language. |
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The thing that some people are saying, is that those two are boring when being interviewed in English. But the same people are also saying, that Raikkonens interviews in english are improving (just like Hakkinens interviews in english were improving). |
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Michael Schumacher has a great sense of humour when you watch him on RTL - sometimes it just doesn't come across when you're not talking in your own tongue. I've died many a time at a foreign dinnertable.
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I think the people that labeled them boring are staying off this topic.
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24 May 2005, 16:42 (Ref:1309124) | #14 | ||
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kimi definatly doesn't give the best interview in english, i have always wondered if he is also a mumbler in finnish.
as for emotion, kimi's got a lot of it as seen whenever his car breaks down and he starts pushing stewards around and generaly acting, well like you think a race car driver should act. as for heidfeld, i though his subdued attitude at the press conference was excellent considering all the negative things his teamate has said about him, he was quiet and left it on webbers shoulders to sound like a child. as far as im concerend, its all good stuff. |
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He had an accident when he was young that affected his vocal chords.
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Kimi is just as unclear in finnish, but in a way he is a celebrity against his will. He obviously isn't excited about cameras or interviews. This is frustrating mainly to journalists who write a lot of BS articles about him anyway. If I'd like to watch "interesting" celebrities I'd watch something else than F1, but the truth is I can't stand those people.
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Well Alex Zanardi is the best personality in motorsport for decades (even throughout his troublesome time in F1), and his first language isn't English.
I do find Kimi frustrating to listen to at times, but I'm sure away from the cameras there is some semblance of a personality there. |
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Apparently with his friends he's chatty...
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I dont think anyone over here has said that Kimi is a boring driver....
some drivers interviews are fun reading..... while some just put you to sleep.... Kimi falls into the latter unfortunately... it has nothing to do with his talent behind a wheel...some people are just good with the press.... BTW i think Nick is quite witty.... |
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If only Ricky Gervais could drive real fast... then we'd have a sport
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26 May 2005, 02:42 (Ref:1310352) | #21 | ||
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As long as some guys perform well on track and fully deserving his place as an F1 driver, it barely matters about how he speak at the press conference.
Not wanting to name names...but there are some drivers who love tough talk and talk and talk to the media, yet on the race track, they are not achieving much. I love racers on the track, not people who race their mouth. |
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just a 'charisma' of any type. |
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