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Old 28 Jul 2005, 18:14 (Ref:1365806)   #1
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Report: McLaren, Renault to Bridgestone

Today's Autosport magazine reports McLaren, Renault, Williams and Toyota are likely to be on Bridgestones next year.

Interesting development.

Apparently the theory is that with the end of one-lap qualifying, the biggest Bridgestone disadvantage will be overcome.
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Old 28 Jul 2005, 18:23 (Ref:1365815)   #2
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I also read over at Gazzetta that 5 Michelin teams in total are negotiating with BS. So add Red Bull and...??? to that list.

Maybe they should have taken a look at Schummi's tyres at the end of last weekend, and the general lack of race pace...
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Old 28 Jul 2005, 18:30 (Ref:1365826)   #3
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This makes no sense to me. Renault and McLaren throw away their biggest competitive edge to Ferrari.

As a Schumi fan, I'd be very happy to see this.
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Old 28 Jul 2005, 18:32 (Ref:1365827)   #4
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I think what we may be looking at here is a scenario whereby a control tyre will be avoided to the mutual benefit of Bridgestone and Michelin.No doubt the FIA have had a hand in it as well.
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Old 28 Jul 2005, 18:32 (Ref:1365828)   #5
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But last year Bridgestone had better tyres than Michelin.

Things don't stay still in F1.

This possibly has a lot to do with Indianapolis.
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Old 28 Jul 2005, 18:33 (Ref:1365830)   #6
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That's interesting, even if they sign now, I doubt they'll get tyre data from BS until after the season's over.

By then they'll be behind the 8 ball if they start doing the suspension then.

Designing suspension before settling on the tires would be going ass-backwards.
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Old 28 Jul 2005, 18:41 (Ref:1365837)   #7
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I wouldn't be at all surprised to see some sort of construction regulations brought in for tyres.The cars and engines have them,why not tyres.At least that way we can be guaranteed a safe tyre.Slightly off topic there,sorry.

A 50/50 split next season with limited testing for all teams would be good to see IMO.
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Old 28 Jul 2005, 19:03 (Ref:1365866)   #8
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The chances of Michael winning the 2006 title have surely increased now. I can only wonder what is going on behidn the scenes for this to unfold.
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Old 28 Jul 2005, 20:15 (Ref:1365978)   #9
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What is the "certainty" factor of the report you refer to KB?
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Old 28 Jul 2005, 21:11 (Ref:1366046)   #10
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Why on earth would they do this. Michelin clearly have a big advantage over Bridgestone, im sure its been said already but look at Schumi's tyres at the end of the last race and throughout the season so far. Seems a bit of a no-brainer to me IMO
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Old 28 Jul 2005, 21:32 (Ref:1366070)   #11
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pure speculation here, but maybe this relates to the us gp fiasco and some of the teams not having total confidence in michelin in a similar situation.
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Old 28 Jul 2005, 21:36 (Ref:1366074)   #12
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I cant see that one event such as that could make teams want to sacrifice pace in order to race at Indy. Im sure that that wont happen again and the fact remains that the french is the better of the two manufactures
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Old 28 Jul 2005, 21:37 (Ref:1366077)   #13
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I was wondering whether it means they have been told/have deep suspicions that Michelin are going to leave at the end of the year.
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Old 28 Jul 2005, 23:06 (Ref:1366182)   #14
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Button (should he stay) amd BAR for World Champions in 2006 then?
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Old 28 Jul 2005, 23:08 (Ref:1366184)   #15
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In the case of Toyota, at least, there is more at stake than merely changing tyre supplier for F1. There are hints about a wholesale alliance between Toyota and Bridgestone for road-car supply.

I think we'll see another 'big' team on Bridgestones next year, maybe more than that. If I had to guess, I'd say Williams and Toyota.
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This possibly has a lot to do with Indianapolis.
That's the first thought of mine as well.
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Old 29 Jul 2005, 00:35 (Ref:1366223)   #17
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I was wondering whether it means they have been told/have deep suspicions that Michelin are going to leave at the end of the year.
I think they have to give a years notice for that to happen.
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Old 29 Jul 2005, 01:00 (Ref:1366233)   #18
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It`s still just a rumour.

But if true. It could be DC`s year.
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Old 29 Jul 2005, 01:07 (Ref:1366234)   #19
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I wouldn't be terribly surprised if these teams are switching to Bridgestone just so they are on the same tyre as Ferrari, so they will not run the risk of losing a title to the Scudeia because they were on the 'wrong' tyre again.

The last two championships (and probably this one too) have been dictated by the performance of a tyre company. I'd imagine that the elite teams would rather perform based on the merits of their car, rather than their performance being dictated by the merit of their tyres.
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Old 29 Jul 2005, 03:17 (Ref:1366267)   #20
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I think they have to give a years notice for that to happen.
This is true I believe, but I think the FIA would be willing to make some exception to satisfy their desire for a single tyre company in F1. I wouldn't complain about other big teams joining Bridgestone even one little bit.

However, all just lots of speculation but it would be interesting.
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Old 29 Jul 2005, 06:28 (Ref:1366309)   #21
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Toyota with BS makes sense, Renault not at all; Williams why not.
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Old 29 Jul 2005, 07:07 (Ref:1366322)   #22
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Renault is the only one that doesn;t make sense at all .. especially as they are winning with Michelin now ..
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Old 29 Jul 2005, 07:10 (Ref:1366326)   #23
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It would be quite odd if Mclaren and Renault do switch over. Indy is the only reason i can think of...i'm sure they took a grilling from the sponsors for that...

Who knows next year might be BS's year as we saw in 2004...
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Old 29 Jul 2005, 07:23 (Ref:1366344)   #24
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Interesting decision for Renault who have always been commercially linked with Michelin.
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If this does occur hopefully the testing situation can finally be put to bed...
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