Formula Vee Ireland

Draven · 11 Nov 2005, 17:13 (Ref:1458310)

I've done it......... I've sorted out my budget for Racing in Irish formula Vee in 2006.
Now to spend the money.

I know where to contact Shean and Leastone (done that) but I've been told that there is an Irish Formula Vee Newsletter which has irish cars for sale in it.
Does anyone know how to get this or have contact details for who distributes this?

Also any advice on what to look at when buying a Vee is apprecated.

I've spent so long on this forum talking about racing, I cant wait to go out and do it.

SpawnyWhippet · 12 Nov 2005, 08:07 (Ref:1458651)

Just out of curiosity, what kind of budget do you need in Irish F.Vee? Around 15k Euro?

Dunzer · 12 Nov 2005, 17:13 (Ref:1458994)

Hi Draven,
The Irish FVee class coordinator is Wendy McGlashan, I will PM you her contact details and she will be able to include you on the newsletter.

Rgds

Dunzer

Draven · 14 Nov 2005, 09:20 (Ref:1460163)

Thanks Dunzer,

I'll be contacting Wendy this morning and get my hands on the newsletter.
Thanks for the details.
As you can probably guess I'll be posting setup questions for Mondello and kirkistown next!
Thanks again for the help.
(are you racing next year? and if so Vee or Shane? or other?)

Dunzer · 14 Nov 2005, 10:49 (Ref:1460243)

Draven,

Probably won't be doing Vees next season as I have other commitments and may not be able to devote my time to it. Although I would gladly spanner for someone on occasion. By the way, just sent you another PM.

Dunzer

Dunzer · 14 Nov 2005, 10:57 (Ref:1460250)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andydickens

Just out of curiosity, what kind of budget do you need in Irish F.Vee? Around 15k Euro?

Andy,
I know of some people who spend around 6k euros but anybody at the sharp end is spending lots more. I know one bloke in particular from last year who relieved himself of 25k euros. To be honest I would imagine a budget of 12k would be typical to be any way competitive.Just my opinion!

Dunzer

SpawnyWhippet · 14 Nov 2005, 11:02 (Ref:1460256)

Thanks Dunzer, 25k surprises me, I thought it was supposed to be a low cost motorsport? Does the 12k include capital costs (car and trailer purchase), or just car running costs, fees etc?

Dunzer · 14 Nov 2005, 11:22 (Ref:1460266)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andydickens

Thanks Dunzer, 25k surprises me, I thought it was supposed to be a low cost motorsport? Does the 12k include capital costs (car and trailer purchase), or just car running costs, fees etc?

Andy,
Apologies, I just took out the calculator and revised my figures. For just running costs, fees, testing, 2 sets tyres, one engine rebuild, accomodation, and allow 1k for damage with 11 rounds I would estimate 8k to 9k. Capital costs not included. The bloke that spent the 25 grand wasn't short of a few quid obviously, had a team running him, did lots of testing and had an engine collection.

Dunzer

SpawnyWhippet · 14 Nov 2005, 11:27 (Ref:1460272)

Thats pretty good value and close racing too!

Dunzer · 14 Nov 2005, 11:32 (Ref:1460278)

In qualifying 0.5 second usually covers the top 9/10 !

Draven · 14 Nov 2005, 11:34 (Ref:1460280)

Hi Dunzer, can you tell me if you think I'm dreaming.
My budget for the year not including car (which I hope to spend no more than 6K on)
For just running costs, fees, 2 1/2 day tests, 1 sets tyres, (no accomodation as I can make it home from mondello and have friends up north.), and allow 1k for damage with 10 rounds.
4 grand.
Does that sound silly. (dont be afraid to say yep if it is.)
I'm leaving out the engine rebuild as I'd be hoping to include that in the follwong years budget.

Is race entry about 200 Euro?

Dunzer · 14 Nov 2005, 13:10 (Ref:1460367)

Draven,
Mondello race entry fee for the National (shorter) circuit was 180 euros last year and Kirky was approx. 100 stg i.e. 150 euros. I think the calendar is roughly halved between both circuits so 5 in Mondello and 5 in Kirky. Therefore thats 900 euros for Mondello and 750 euros for Kirky, total 1650 in entry fees. The extra cost I was including was a full days test at each circuit prior to race day therefore 5 days testing in Mondello @ 230 quid each time is 1150 euros, and 5 days a Kirky @ 150 quid is 750 euros. Thats 1900 euros on top of entry fees of 1650 which is 3550 euros. I allowed for two sets tyres @ approx 600 euros each is 1200 euros (most people only use one set). The usual consumables i.e. fuel, brake pads, hard to put an exact fugure on but say 500 euros?, I allowed 1500 euro engine rebuild. Add it all up and it comes to approx. 6750 plus accomodation and travel.

If its a case that you will have little or no accomodation costs, have 2 1/2 day tests, buy one set of boots and rebuild the engine the following year you could slash about 3500 off my figure so the season would be well within your budget. The costs and testing detail I showed would be what I am willing to do.

Cheers,

Dunzer

Draven · 14 Nov 2005, 16:50 (Ref:1460484)

Nice one Dunzer, again thanks for the helpful info.
I would prefer to do more testing but I'll have to wait and see how my finances go to be honest.

I'm going to try and not be to tight and spend the money when I need to but I've alos got to try and keep costs as low as possible for the first year , especially since I'll be laying out a fiar bit on Car/Trialer/helmet and gear.

I have a few more questions that you might be able to answer,
do you have any special insurance for teh car while you have it stored?
And do you think a test drive is necessary in any car I would plan on buying?
Because that might be a problem.

Dunzer · 15 Nov 2005, 07:38 (Ref:1461063)

Draven, just sent you another PM as its quite long......

Draven · 17 Nov 2005, 12:25 (Ref:1463126)

Good Man Dunzer, I saw your car, I have a few more to see in the next week so I'll get back to you then. Thanks for the encouragement.

Draven · 24 Nov 2005, 10:33 (Ref:1469152)

I hate to ask silly questions (I'm fully of them), I've got a faimly friend who makes trailers to agree to make me one cheeply, and all I need to do is give dimensions.
Small problem, I dont have the dimensions for a Vee. Do you know where I can find the size specs for a Vee?

And silly question number 2 is... I know that the regs say that the correct fuel for irish vee is 99 octane, where will I find this?

JohnMiller · 24 Nov 2005, 10:47 (Ref:1469165)

Would suggest bed size something like 182cm x 4m.

Bigger than you need but, if you change formula in a few years it will also fit something bigger and it will also be far easier to sell - narow trailers can be a nightmare to sell because anybody with a wider car won't buy it.

Dunzer · 24 Nov 2005, 12:43 (Ref:1469255)

Can't remember what the dimensions for the Vee are....but a quick call to Sheanes will reveal all. John's right....build it big enough to accomodate a bigger car....his dimensions sound right. As regards 99 Octane fuel, the regulations state that you can use UP to 99 octane...as far as I am aware this is a super unleaded fuel thats available in the Tesco forecourts. I think 95 Octane is regular unleaded.

av8rirl · 2 Dec 2005, 23:18 (Ref:1476044)

Does anyone know accurate costs for hiring a competitive car for the season? No need to name names, figures would be better!! Thx.

Dunzer · 6 Dec 2005, 08:18 (Ref:1478029)

Av8rirl,
Sorry no accurate costs but I did hear figures of anything between 300 euros to 700 euros per race unsupported i.e. run the car yourself. I also understand the price would depend on whether there is a Doherty engine in the car....some people are fussy about this...Not very helpful I know. I'm sure you know the usual suspects to phone

Dunzer

Draven · 6 Dec 2005, 14:02 (Ref:1478259)

Well I've done it. I'm now a Formula Vee owner. I've got a car so now all I got to do is get some speed!

Nuvolari78 · 3 Jan 2006, 14:47 (Ref:1494172)

Congratulations! I've been involved in Irish Motorsport for years, but only got round to my debut season in 2005, in Formula Vee, & loved every second! The things that i found most important were setup (worth listening to Robbie Parkes & David Sheane!) & engines above all. Maintenance, carb jetting & especially ignition timing are crucial to avoid problems. If you plan on racing for a couple of seasons, then it would be worth considering the legendary Doherty engine - regarding longevity, reliability, resale value & above all, performance, there is simply nothing remotely like it. Have fun!

Draven · 5 Jan 2006, 09:27 (Ref:1495315)

Thanks for the advice Nuvolari78, I take it your racing in Vee again this year?

Nuvolari78 · 5 Jan 2006, 12:58 (Ref:1495504)

Yeah, but it'll be a delayed start, unfortunately, due to other commoitments. Still con't wait, though..! :-)

Draven · 31 Jan 2006, 14:05 (Ref:1512736)

Calendar is out for the season.
I'm planning a full tilt at it, I'm going to try and make every round except the flyways to Pembery (save money).
I know many things can happen that may dent this plan (like denting the car!!) but I'm determined to start off optimistic.

Novices will not be allowed to do the Phoenix Park so that counts me out.
Or does it?
If I get 6 race signatures prior to that will I no longer be classed as a novice and hence able to race there too?
anyone know

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